[OT]: Strange Microchip Email

[Sean Breheny]

Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip sample
request was made "on your behalf"?

My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but it
doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com

I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
think who would have done it for me.

One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of my
order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me. Maybe
it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But it
would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me a
security warning about the message.
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[Denny Esterline]

Yep, same exact experience. I went so far as to log into their sample web
portal and look at my recent history (none). (and not though any link in
the email)
Not at all sure what's going on, but as you said, it didn't ask anything of
me.

More to be revealed - maybe.



On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:30 PM, Sean Breheny <***@cornell.edu> wrote:

> Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip sample
> request was made "on your behalf"?
>
> My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but it
> doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
> passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com
>
> I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
> think who would have done it for me.
>
> One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of my
> order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me. Maybe
> it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But it
> would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me a
> security warning about the message.
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[Jean-Paul Louis]

Same with me, but I wasn't worried as I had received a sample development
board that I had ordered several weeks ago ( it was a $20 board ).

Jean-Paul
N1JPL


On Fri, May 25, 2018, 8:31 PM Sean Breheny <***@cornell.edu> wrote:

> Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip sample
> request was made "on your behalf"?
>
> My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but it
> doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
> passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com
>
> I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
> think who would have done it for me.
>
> One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of my
> order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me. Maybe
> it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But it
> would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me a
> security warning about the message.
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[Ryan O'Connor]

I'm still waiting for my free one :(

Ryan

On 26 May 2018 at 13:56, Jean-Paul Louis <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Same with me, but I wasn't worried as I had received a sample development
> board that I had ordered several weeks ago ( it was a $20 board ).
>
> Jean-Paul
> N1JPL
>
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 8:31 PM Sean Breheny <***@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip
> sample
> > request was made "on your behalf"?
> >
> > My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but it
> > doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
> > passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com
> >
> > I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
> > think who would have done it for me.
> >
> > One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of my
> > order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me. Maybe
> > it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But it
> > would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me a
> > security warning about the message.
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[Chris Smolinski]

Same here. Did anyone get theirs?

Chris Smolinski
Black Cat Systems
Westminster, MD USA
http://www.blackcatsystems.com




> On May 25, 2018, at 10:20 PM, Ryan O'Connor <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm still waiting for my free one :(
>
> Ryan
>
> On 26 May 2018 at 13:56, Jean-Paul Louis <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Same with me, but I wasn't worried as I had received a sample development
>> board that I had ordered several weeks ago ( it was a $20 board ).
>>
>> Jean-Paul
>> N1JPL
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 8:31 PM Sean Breheny <***@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip
>> sample
>>> request was made "on your behalf"?
>>>
>>> My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but it
>>> doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
>>> passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com
>>>
>>> I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
>>> think who would have done it for me.
>>>
>>> One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of my
>>> order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me. Maybe
>>> it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But it
>>> would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me a
>>> security warning about the message.
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[AB, Pearce - UKRI STFC]

Me too ...


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I'm still waiting for my free one :(

Ryan

On 26 May 2018 at 13:56, Jean-Paul Louis <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Same with me, but I wasn't worried as I had received a sample
> development board that I had ordered several weeks ago ( it was a $20 board ).
>
> Jean-Paul
> N1JPL
>
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 8:31 PM Sean Breheny <***@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip
> sample
> > request was made "on your behalf"?
> >
> > My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt
> > but it doesn't request that I follow any links or open any
> > documents. Also it passes gmail's authentication tests for having
> > come from microchip.com
> >
> > I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I
> > can't think who would have done it for me.
> >
> > One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary
> > of my order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address
> > for me. Maybe it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment
> > originally? But it would be strange for gmail to strip out the
> > attachment and not give me a security warning about the message.
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[Jean-Paul Louis]

Correction, That was the free board I ordered following an email in this list if memory serves me right.

Just my $0.02,

Jean-Paul
N1JPL



> On May 25, 2018, at 9:56 PM, Jean-Paul Louis <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Same with me, but I wasn't worried as I had received a sample development
> board that I had ordered several weeks ago ( it was a $20 board ).
>
> Jean-Paul
> N1JPL
>
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018, 8:31 PM Sean Breheny <***@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip sample
>> request was made "on your behalf"?
>>
>> My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but it
>> doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
>> passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com
>>
>> I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
>> think who would have done it for me.
>>
>> One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of my
>> order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me. Maybe
>> it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But it
>> would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me a
>> security warning about the message.
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[RussellMc]

Probably unrelated - but there is a current scam where advice is received
that a DHL parcel is in transit and tracking information is provided.
I do not know how this works out at the receiving end "in due course".


Russell
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[Don Kovalchik - W8DPK]

I also received that email. I vaguely remember ordering a free
development board a few months ago, but I never received a
confirmation. Maybe that's it?

--Don--

On 5/25/2018 8:30 PM, Sean Breheny wrote:
> Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip sample
> request was made "on your behalf"?
>
> My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but it
> doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
> passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com
>
> I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
> think who would have done it for me.
>
> One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of my
> order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me. Maybe
> it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But it
> would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me a
> security warning about the message.

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[William Bross]

Looks like a lot of people got it, but no one has mentioned the Order
number.  Mine is 1109308.  Are they all the same or different?  That
might be a clue.  I also ordered the demo board but that was a special
promotion.  It never showed up in my sample order history.

Bill


On 5/26/2018 2:37 PM, Don Kovalchik - W8DPK wrote:
> I also received that email. I vaguely remember ordering a free
> development board a few months ago, but I never received a
> confirmation. Maybe that's it?
>
> --Don--
>
> On 5/25/2018 8:30 PM, Sean Breheny wrote:
>> Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip sample
>> request was made "on your behalf"?
>>
>> My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but it
>> doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
>> passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com
>>
>> I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
>> think who would have done it for me.
>>
>> One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of my
>> order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me. Maybe
>> it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But it
>> would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me a
>> security warning about the message.

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[Chris Smolinski]

Mine is a different order number. Maybe we're finally getting the demo board. Now, can someone remind me what it is again, it's been too long :)

Chris Smolinski
Black Cat Systems
Westminster, MD USA
http://www.blackcatsystems.com




> On May 27, 2018, at 9:12 AM, William Bross <***@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Looks like a lot of people got it, but no one has mentioned the Order
> number. Mine is 1109308. Are they all the same or different? That
> might be a clue. I also ordered the demo board but that was a special
> promotion. It never showed up in my sample order history.
>
> Bill
>
>
> On 5/26/2018 2:37 PM, Don Kovalchik - W8DPK wrote:
>> I also received that email. I vaguely remember ordering a free
>> development board a few months ago, but I never received a
>> confirmation. Maybe that's it?
>>
>> --Don--
>>
>> On 5/25/2018 8:30 PM, Sean Breheny wrote:
>>> Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip sample
>>> request was made "on your behalf"?
>>>
>>> My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but it
>>> doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
>>> passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com
>>>
>>> I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
>>> think who would have done it for me.
>>>
>>> One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of my
>>> order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me. Maybe
>>> it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But it
>>> would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me a
>>> security warning about the message.
>
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[Denny Esterline]

My number was/is 1109300, so, not the same.


On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 6:52 AM, Chris Smolinski <
***@blackcatsystems.com> wrote:

> Mine is a different order number. Maybe we're finally getting the demo
> board. Now, can someone remind me what it is again, it's been too long :)
>
> Chris Smolinski
> Black Cat Systems
> Westminster, MD USA
> http://www.blackcatsystems.com
>
>
>
>
> > On May 27, 2018, at 9:12 AM, William Bross <***@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like a lot of people got it, but no one has mentioned the Order
> > number. Mine is 1109308. Are they all the same or different? That
> > might be a clue. I also ordered the demo board but that was a special
> > promotion. It never showed up in my sample order history.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > On 5/26/2018 2:37 PM, Don Kovalchik - W8DPK wrote:
> >> I also received that email. I vaguely remember ordering a free
> >> development board a few months ago, but I never received a
> >> confirmation. Maybe that's it?
> >>
> >> --Don--
> >>
> >> On 5/25/2018 8:30 PM, Sean Breheny wrote:
> >>> Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip
> sample
> >>> request was made "on your behalf"?
> >>>
> >>> My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but
> it
> >>> doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
> >>> passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com
> >>>
> >>> I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
> >>> think who would have done it for me.
> >>>
> >>> One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of
> my
> >>> order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me.
> Maybe
> >>> it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But
> it
> >>> would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me
> a
> >>> security warning about the message.
> >
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[Jean-Paul Louis]

Mine was in the subject line

"Microchip Samples Order 1109305 Acknowledgement”.

But I have received the sample order a few weeks ago. So, in my case, the confirmation comes after the delivery.


Just my $0.02,

Jean-Paul
N1JPL


> On May 27, 2018, at 10:04 AM, Denny Esterline <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My number was/is 1109300, so, not the same.
>
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 6:52 AM, Chris Smolinski <
> ***@blackcatsystems.com> wrote:
>
>> Mine is a different order number. Maybe we're finally getting the demo
>> board. Now, can someone remind me what it is again, it's been too long :)
>>
>> Chris Smolinski
>> Black Cat Systems
>> Westminster, MD USA
>> http://www.blackcatsystems.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 27, 2018, at 9:12 AM, William Bross <***@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like a lot of people got it, but no one has mentioned the Order
>>> number. Mine is 1109308. Are they all the same or different? That
>>> might be a clue. I also ordered the demo board but that was a special
>>> promotion. It never showed up in my sample order history.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/26/2018 2:37 PM, Don Kovalchik - W8DPK wrote:
>>>> I also received that email. I vaguely remember ordering a free
>>>> development board a few months ago, but I never received a
>>>> confirmation. Maybe that's it?
>>>>
>>>> --Don--
>>>>
>>>> On 5/25/2018 8:30 PM, Sean Breheny wrote:
>>>>> Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip
>> sample
>>>>> request was made "on your behalf"?
>>>>>
>>>>> My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but
>> it
>>>>> doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
>>>>> passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
>>>>> think who would have done it for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of
>> my
>>>>> order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me.
>> Maybe
>>>>> it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But
>> it
>>>>> would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me
>> a
>>>>> security warning about the message.
>>>
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[Van Horn, David]

I had that, but it was in an AVR.

Not long after the Mega128 came out, I used a pair of them in a thermal printer design, plus a Tiny-26 for battery charging.
The printhead manager took in data from the comms manager and rasterized it, and managed the stepper motor with accel/decal as well as the burn pulse timing for 832 pixels in 13 segments, at something like 2000 lines/second.

It worked well, but we would get occasional data corruption and no amount of debugging ever resulted in a fix.
The mechanism of data transfer was blamed, but only out of desperation.

At one point, I was called to the factory because suddenly "nothing works". I get there and sure enough, the chips program but they don't run. As I'm investigating I noticed that the low power oscillator fuse was set. I had specified NOT to do this but someone overrode my decision.

It turns out that the low power oscillator, at least on those parts, isn't well characterized. Atmel was never able to tell me what crystals would work with it or how to select crystals that would work with it. The problem is that in low power mode, the amplitude is much lower and with most of the chips what happens is that sometimes part of the system didn't get clocked, resulting in non-deterministic execution. (!) Concurrent symptoms included the serial baud rates being slightly slow. Nowhere near enough to worry about but not correct.

Setting the oscillator fuse to full power resolved all the issues.
We just got "lucky" in that the one batch put the problem front and center.

I've talked to a number of AVR users since then with similar issues, and turning off that low power oscillator worked miracles.
On the M128, the low power mode was the DEFAULT!




-----Original Message-----
From: piclist-***@mit.edu <piclist-***@mit.edu> On Behalf Of Clint Jay
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 9:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email

Heisenberg's bug hunter, the act of finding a bug means it changes into a different bug?

On 6 June 2018 at 16:42, Van Horn, David < ***@backcountryaccess.com> wrote:

> And they send it to you because they know you'll need it. No need to
> request.
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 9:22 AM
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>
> ​
>
> On 7 June 2018 at 01:33, Denny Esterline <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The weird part for me was that I received the board a couple weeks
> > before the email. It only violated causality a little :-)
> >
> >
>
> The boards are either dead or alive.
> ​Some you get just a smile floating in the air.
> More likely so if you live in Cheshire.
>
>
> R​
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[Sean Breheny]

I just received a PIC16F18446-XPRESS module and the sales order number on
its packing list matches one of the two strange emails I received.

I received an email on May 25 (the original "strange email" I wrote to this
list about) with the title:
Microchip Samples Order 1109336 Acknowledgement

I then received another on June 19th with the title:
Product Sample Order 30293899 Shipping Notification

The packing list with the sample I received today matches the number in the
title of this second, June 19th, email. I do not see the number from the
previous email anywhere.

Looking back at the list activity in March, I see that someone mentioned
that this free sample was available and I wrote a positive reply. I don't
clearly recall ordering one but I must have. It still doesn't explain the
long delay between when I would have ordered it (March) to when I got an
acknowledgement (late May) and the fact that this original order number is
nowhere to be found on what I received.

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[Van Horn, David]

I just got one of the boards, but never saw the email.

I suspect some glitch in the gears at uChip.


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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 12:01 PM
To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. <***@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email

I just received a PIC16F18446-XPRESS module and the sales order number on its packing list matches one of the two strange emails I received.

I received an email on May 25 (the original "strange email" I wrote to this list about) with the title:
Microchip Samples Order 1109336 Acknowledgement

I then received another on June 19th with the title:
Product Sample Order 30293899 Shipping Notification

The packing list with the sample I received today matches the number in the title of this second, June 19th, email. I do not see the number from the previous email anywhere.

Looking back at the list activity in March, I see that someone mentioned that this free sample was available and I wrote a positive reply. I don't clearly recall ordering one but I must have. It still doesn't explain the long delay between when I would have ordered it (March) to when I got an acknowledgement (late May) and the fact that this original order number is nowhere to be found on what I received.

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[Sean Breheny]

Do you remember requesting this sample?

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Van Horn, David <
***@backcountryaccess.com> wrote:

> I just got one of the boards, but never saw the email.
>
> I suspect some glitch in the gears at uChip.
>
>
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[Van Horn, David]

I think they sent the same sample twice.

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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 12:56 PM
To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. <***@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email

Do you remember requesting this sample?

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Van Horn, David < ***@backcountryaccess.com> wrote:

> I just got one of the boards, but never saw the email.
>
> I suspect some glitch in the gears at uChip.
>
>
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[Manu Abraham]

Hi Sean,

Same situation as you, but just that the board never arrived. They
provided me a tracking number too. Tried putting that number in the
Fedex tracking page and it says "

Delivered Thursday 21/06/2018 at 14:08"


Product Sample Order 30294832 Shipping Notification

Microchip Shipping Notification
Thank you for your order. The following order lines have shipped:
Order Number: 30294832

Line: 1
Microchip Item: PIC16F18446-XPRESS
Quantity: 1
Ship Date: 19-June-2018

Delivery location seems to be another state. I have not ordered it,
but received a mail with my address and tracking number. But the
tracking page states that it has been delivered in another state.
Maybe the system, went completely nuts ?

Cheers,

Manu

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Sean Breheny <***@cornell.edu> wrote:
> I just received a PIC16F18446-XPRESS module and the sales order number on
> its packing list matches one of the two strange emails I received.
>
> I received an email on May 25 (the original "strange email" I wrote to this
> list about) with the title:
> Microchip Samples Order 1109336 Acknowledgement
>
> I then received another on June 19th with the title:
> Product Sample Order 30293899 Shipping Notification
>
> The packing list with the sample I received today matches the number in the
> title of this second, June 19th, email. I do not see the number from the
> previous email anywhere.
>
> Looking back at the list activity in March, I see that someone mentioned
> that this free sample was available and I wrote a positive reply. I don't
> clearly recall ordering one but I must have. It still doesn't explain the
> long delay between when I would have ordered it (March) to when I got an
> acknowledgement (late May) and the fact that this original order number is
> nowhere to be found on what I received.
>
> Sean
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[John]

I remember requesting the sample..
Received two somewhat none descript emails in the last two or three months.
Received the sample via FedEx just a minute ago.
I wished I had noted when I requested the sample but I can always wait for FREE.
Am pleased.
JH

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Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 2:10 PM
To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. <***@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email

Hi Sean,

Same situation as you, but just that the board never arrived. They provided me a tracking number too. Tried putting that number in the Fedex tracking page and it says "

Delivered Thursday 21/06/2018 at 14:08"


Product Sample Order 30294832 Shipping Notification

Microchip Shipping Notification
Thank you for your order. The following order lines have shipped:
Order Number: 30294832

Line: 1
Microchip Item: PIC16F18446-XPRESS
Quantity: 1
Ship Date: 19-June-2018

Delivery location seems to be another state. I have not ordered it, but received a mail with my address and tracking number. But the tracking page states that it has been delivered in another state.
Maybe the system, went completely nuts ?

Cheers,

Manu

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Sean Breheny <***@cornell.edu> wrote:
> I just received a PIC16F18446-XPRESS module and the sales order number
> on its packing list matches one of the two strange emails I received.
>
> I received an email on May 25 (the original "strange email" I wrote to
> this list about) with the title:
> Microchip Samples Order 1109336 Acknowledgement
>
> I then received another on June 19th with the title:
> Product Sample Order 30293899 Shipping Notification
>
> The packing list with the sample I received today matches the number
> in the title of this second, June 19th, email. I do not see the number
> from the previous email anywhere.
>
> Looking back at the list activity in March, I see that someone
> mentioned that this free sample was available and I wrote a positive
> reply. I don't clearly recall ordering one but I must have. It still
> doesn't explain the long delay between when I would have ordered it
> (March) to when I got an acknowledgement (late May) and the fact that
> this original order number is nowhere to be found on what I received.
>
> Sean
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[Jean-Paul Louis]

I also received the FEDEX package with one PIC16F18446-XPRESS today.

I need to check if the other package I received a month ago is the same or another board I ordered.

Jean-Paul

> On Jun 21, 2018, at 3:50 PM, John <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I remember requesting the sample..
> Received two somewhat none descript emails in the last two or three months.
> Received the sample via FedEx just a minute ago.
> I wished I had noted when I requested the sample but I can always wait for FREE.
> Am pleased.
> JH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: piclist-***@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-***@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Manu Abraham
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 2:10 PM
> To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. <***@mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> Same situation as you, but just that the board never arrived. They provided me a tracking number too. Tried putting that number in the Fedex tracking page and it says "
>
> Delivered Thursday 21/06/2018 at 14:08"
>
>
> Product Sample Order 30294832 Shipping Notification
>
> Microchip Shipping Notification
> Thank you for your order. The following order lines have shipped:
> Order Number: 30294832
>
> Line: 1
> Microchip Item: PIC16F18446-XPRESS
> Quantity: 1
> Ship Date: 19-June-2018
>
> Delivery location seems to be another state. I have not ordered it, but received a mail with my address and tracking number. But the tracking page states that it has been delivered in another state.
> Maybe the system, went completely nuts ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Manu
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Sean Breheny <***@cornell.edu> wrote:
>> I just received a PIC16F18446-XPRESS module and the sales order number
>> on its packing list matches one of the two strange emails I received.
>>
>> I received an email on May 25 (the original "strange email" I wrote to
>> this list about) with the title:
>> Microchip Samples Order 1109336 Acknowledgement
>>
>> I then received another on June 19th with the title:
>> Product Sample Order 30293899 Shipping Notification
>>
>> The packing list with the sample I received today matches the number
>> in the title of this second, June 19th, email. I do not see the number
>> from the previous email anywhere.
>>
>> Looking back at the list activity in March, I see that someone
>> mentioned that this free sample was available and I wrote a positive
>> reply. I don't clearly recall ordering one but I must have. It still
>> doesn't explain the long delay between when I would have ordered it
>> (March) to when I got an acknowledgement (late May) and the fact that
>> this original order number is nowhere to be found on what I received.
>>
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Just my $0.02,

Jean-Paul
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[Michael Johnston]

Hi I got the email on Monday and arrived this morning. I ordered mine a month or so back and now I have two.
Michael Johnston

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2018, at 2:50 PM, John <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I remember requesting the sample..
> Received two somewhat none descript emails in the last two or three months.
> Received the sample via FedEx just a minute ago.
> I wished I had noted when I requested the sample but I can always wait for FREE.
> Am pleased.
> JH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: piclist-***@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-***@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Manu Abraham
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 2:10 PM
> To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. <***@mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> Same situation as you, but just that the board never arrived. They provided me a tracking number too. Tried putting that number in the Fedex tracking page and it says "
>
> Delivered Thursday 21/06/2018 at 14:08"
>
>
> Product Sample Order 30294832 Shipping Notification
>
> Microchip Shipping Notification
> Thank you for your order. The following order lines have shipped:
> Order Number: 30294832
>
> Line: 1
> Microchip Item: PIC16F18446-XPRESS
> Quantity: 1
> Ship Date: 19-June-2018
>
> Delivery location seems to be another state. I have not ordered it, but received a mail with my address and tracking number. But the tracking page states that it has been delivered in another state.
> Maybe the system, went completely nuts ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Manu
>
>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Sean Breheny <***@cornell.edu> wrote:
>> I just received a PIC16F18446-XPRESS module and the sales order number
>> on its packing list matches one of the two strange emails I received.
>>
>> I received an email on May 25 (the original "strange email" I wrote to
>> this list about) with the title:
>> Microchip Samples Order 1109336 Acknowledgement
>>
>> I then received another on June 19th with the title:
>> Product Sample Order 30293899 Shipping Notification
>>
>> The packing list with the sample I received today matches the number
>> in the title of this second, June 19th, email. I do not see the number
>> from the previous email anywhere.
>>
>> Looking back at the list activity in March, I see that someone
>> mentioned that this free sample was available and I wrote a positive
>> reply. I don't clearly recall ordering one but I must have. It still
>> doesn't explain the long delay between when I would have ordered it
>> (March) to when I got an acknowledgement (late May) and the fact that
>> this original order number is nowhere to be found on what I received.
>>
>> Sean
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[AB Pearce - UKRI STFC]

I have two on the way, although I only ordered one. ...

I believe that when the offer went out they didn't actually have chips in production, and so the delay has been in getting chips and then producing the boards.



-----Original Message-----
From: piclist-***@mit.edu <piclist-***@mit.edu> On Behalf Of Michael Johnston
Sent: 22 June 2018 01:44
To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. <***@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email

Hi I got the email on Monday and arrived this morning. I ordered mine a month or so back and now I have two.
Michael Johnston

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 21, 2018, at 2:50 PM, John <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I remember requesting the sample..
> Received two somewhat none descript emails in the last two or three months.
> Received the sample via FedEx just a minute ago.
> I wished I had noted when I requested the sample but I can always wait for FREE.
> Am pleased.
> JH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: piclist-***@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-***@mit.edu] On
> Behalf Of Manu Abraham
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 2:10 PM
> To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. <***@mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> Same situation as you, but just that the board never arrived. They provided me a tracking number too. Tried putting that number in the Fedex tracking page and it says "
>
> Delivered Thursday 21/06/2018 at 14:08"
>
>
> Product Sample Order 30294832 Shipping Notification
>
> Microchip Shipping Notification
> Thank you for your order. The following order lines have shipped:
> Order Number: 30294832
>
> Line: 1
> Microchip Item: PIC16F18446-XPRESS
> Quantity: 1
> Ship Date: 19-June-2018
>
> Delivery location seems to be another state. I have not ordered it, but received a mail with my address and tracking number. But the tracking page states that it has been delivered in another state.
> Maybe the system, went completely nuts ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Manu
>
>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Sean Breheny <***@cornell.edu> wrote:
>> I just received a PIC16F18446-XPRESS module and the sales order
>> number on its packing list matches one of the two strange emails I received.
>>
>> I received an email on May 25 (the original "strange email" I wrote
>> to this list about) with the title:
>> Microchip Samples Order 1109336 Acknowledgement
>>
>> I then received another on June 19th with the title:
>> Product Sample Order 30293899 Shipping Notification
>>
>> The packing list with the sample I received today matches the number
>> in the title of this second, June 19th, email. I do not see the
>> number from the previous email anywhere.
>>
>> Looking back at the list activity in March, I see that someone
>> mentioned that this free sample was available and I wrote a positive
>> reply. I don't clearly recall ordering one but I must have. It still
>> doesn't explain the long delay between when I would have ordered it
>> (March) to when I got an acknowledgement (late May) and the fact that
>> this original order number is nowhere to be found on what I received.
>>
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[RussellMc]

I ordered one.
I have had one email.
I may therefore receive one sometime.
Or not.

If anyone received more than they wish to own (which seems unlikely :-) ) I
know someone in Malaysia who would benefit from receiving one.
I advised them to request one at the time but do not know if they did.
Will check .


Russell


On 22 June 2018 at 21:07, AB Pearce - UKRI STFC <***@stfc.ac.uk>
wrote:

> I have two on the way, although I only ordered one. ...
>
> I believe that when the offer went out they didn't actually have chips in
> production, and so the delay has been in getting chips and then producing
> the boards.
>
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[John Ferrell]

I did not order one but FedX delivered it yesterday. It has been quite a
while since I did anything with their products.  When MikroElectronika 
decided not to provide the hardware upgrade option to my Pascal Compiler
I decided to play with Arduinos instead. To be fair about the complier
issue, as far as I know they are still providing the updates as promised.

I will probably get around to checking out the chip just to satisfy my
curiosity.

BTW, the Digikey price is $1.71.


On 6/22/2018 5:35 AM, RussellMc wrote:
> I ordered one.
> I have had one email.
> I may therefore receive one sometime.
> Or not.
>
> If anyone received more than they wish to own (which seems unlikely:-) ) I
> know someone in Malaysia who would benefit from receiving one.
> I advised them to request one at the time but do not know if they did.
> Will check .

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than with a crowd going the wrong direction.
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[Chris Roper]

>
>
> No... it's a quantum board :-)
>
> Will his bugs be Entangled with mine then?
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[Brent Brown]

No email received here, and no fee dev board ordered, but I did receive something
equally enexpected/unsolicited ~ a MicroChip diary, with a glossy card saying "May
you realize your Designs as Curiosity takes you to Starry heights" - with
compliments from Microchip. It was mailed from Microchip Hong Kong, some sort of
promotion around their Curiosity range it seems. My only recent contact with MC
was buying an ICD4 back in March.

On 5/25/2018 8:30 PM, Sean Breheny wrote:
> Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip sample
> request was made "on your behalf"?
>
> My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but it
> doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
> passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com
>
> I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
> think who would have done it for me.
>
> One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of my
> order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me. Maybe
> it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But it
> would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me a
> security warning about the message.

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[Denny Esterline]

I had received a small dev board from Microchip a couple weeks ago - well
before the subject email. Now that I'm back in the office today, I can
share it's details - I suspect it's something that was linked here on the
list, but, honestly, I don't really recall.

It's tiny, has a PIC16F18446 one it and what looks to be an on-board
programmer.

Pictures here:


Front

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag233/D_esterline/EBB0D5DB-F080-4560-B4E4-463A23F0458E_zpsooa5qraa.jpg


Back

http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag233/D_esterline/67E6CDB5-D8AF-4466-8E98-CEC925C2C08E_zpsyneocd3s.jpg

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Brent Brown <***@eds.co.nz> wrote:

> No email received here, and no fee dev board ordered, but I did receive
> something
> equally enexpected/unsolicited ~ a MicroChip diary, with a glossy card
> saying "May
> you realize your Designs as Curiosity takes you to Starry heights" - with
> compliments from Microchip. It was mailed from Microchip Hong Kong, some
> sort of
> promotion around their Curiosity range it seems. My only recent contact
> with MC
> was buying an ICD4 back in March.
>
> On 5/25/2018 8:30 PM, Sean Breheny wrote:
> > Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip
> sample
> > request was made "on your behalf"?
> >
> > My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but it
> > doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
> > passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com
> >
> > I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
> > think who would have done it for me.
> >
> > One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of my
> > order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me. Maybe
> > it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But it
> > would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me a
> > security warning about the message.
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[Bonita Felix]

One of the purposes of this board is to promote the cloud based
development
environment called MPLAB EXPRESS.

Personally, I don't care much for cloud based compilers/environments.
I guess for some cases, they do offer an advantage, but I generally
think
they're more of a curse than a blessing.

My reasons are in a cloud based situation, you have to have access to
the internet in some fashion.
If I work locally on a computer, I can be completely independent of the
internet from a compiler /
programming point of view.

Another reason is related, and that would be if you store your source
code in the cloud, and you want
to access it for some reason, again, you have to have internet access.
If it's on a local computer
drive, I don't need internet access.

A third, maybe unlikely but still possible reason is having the source
in the cloud makes it easier for
someone not authorized to see the code to gain access without your
knowledge.

One positive I do like is that one could access their code virtually
anywhere you have a computer with
internet access.

However, in my opinion, the negatives far outweigh the positive. But
again, this is my opinion, and I
do not even suggest that I speak for everyone.

Bottom line is cloud based environment / compiler just isn't for me.
YMMV.


Regards,

Jim

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email
> From: Denny Esterline <***@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, May 29, 2018 3:13 pm
> To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <***@mit.edu>
>
>
> I had received a small dev board from Microchip a couple weeks ago - well
> before the subject email. Now that I'm back in the office today, I can
> share it's details - I suspect it's something that was linked here on the
> list, but, honestly, I don't really recall.
>
> It's tiny, has a PIC16F18446 one it and what looks to be an on-board
> programmer.
>
> Pictures here:
>
>
> Front
>
> http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag233/D_esterline/EBB0D5DB-F080-4560-B4E4-463A23F0458E_zpsooa5qraa.jpg
>
>
> Back
>
> http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag233/D_esterline/67E6CDB5-D8AF-4466-8E98-CEC925C2C08E_zpsyneocd3s.jpg
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Brent Brown <***@eds.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > No email received here, and no fee dev board ordered, but I did receive
> > something
> > equally enexpected/unsolicited ~ a MicroChip diary, with a glossy card
> > saying "May
> > you realize your Designs as Curiosity takes you to Starry heights" - with
> > compliments from Microchip. It was mailed from Microchip Hong Kong, some
> > sort of
> > promotion around their Curiosity range it seems. My only recent contact
> > with MC
> > was buying an ICD4 back in March.
> >
> > On 5/25/2018 8:30 PM, Sean Breheny wrote:
> > > Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip
> > sample
> > > request was made "on your behalf"?
> > >
> > > My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt but it
> > > doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also it
> > > passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from microchip.com
> > >
> > > I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I can't
> > > think who would have done it for me.
> > >
> > > One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary of my
> > > order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me. Maybe
> > > it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally? But it
> > > would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give me a
> > > security warning about the message.
> >
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[Michael Johnston]

Hi, I don't building code on the cloud either but if you have that embed
cloud based device its the same there. But I do believe you can still use
this device with mplabx 4.1 or what ever
Michael Johnston

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Bonita Felix <***@jpes.com> wrote:

>
> One of the purposes of this board is to promote the cloud based
> development
> environment called MPLAB EXPRESS.
>
> Personally, I don't care much for cloud based compilers/environments.
> I guess for some cases, they do offer an advantage, but I generally
> think
> they're more of a curse than a blessing.
>
> My reasons are in a cloud based situation, you have to have access to
> the internet in some fashion.
> If I work locally on a computer, I can be completely independent of the
> internet from a compiler /
> programming point of view.
>
> Another reason is related, and that would be if you store your source
> code in the cloud, and you want
> to access it for some reason, again, you have to have internet access.
> If it's on a local computer
> drive, I don't need internet access.
>
> A third, maybe unlikely but still possible reason is having the source
> in the cloud makes it easier for
> someone not authorized to see the code to gain access without your
> knowledge.
>
> One positive I do like is that one could access their code virtually
> anywhere you have a computer with
> internet access.
>
> However, in my opinion, the negatives far outweigh the positive. But
> again, this is my opinion, and I
> do not even suggest that I speak for everyone.
>
> Bottom line is cloud based environment / compiler just isn't for me.
> YMMV.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email
> > From: Denny Esterline <***@gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue, May 29, 2018 3:13 pm
> > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <***@mit.edu>
> >
> >
> > I had received a small dev board from Microchip a couple weeks ago - well
> > before the subject email. Now that I'm back in the office today, I can
> > share it's details - I suspect it's something that was linked here on the
> > list, but, honestly, I don't really recall.
> >
> > It's tiny, has a PIC16F18446 one it and what looks to be an on-board
> > programmer.
> >
> > Pictures here:
> >
> >
> > Front
> >
> > http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag233/D_esterline/
> EBB0D5DB-F080-4560-B4E4-463A23F0458E_zpsooa5qraa.jpg
> >
> >
> > Back
> >
> > http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag233/D_esterline/
> 67E6CDB5-D8AF-4466-8E98-CEC925C2C08E_zpsyneocd3s.jpg
> >
> > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Brent Brown <***@eds.co.nz> wrote:
> >
> > > No email received here, and no fee dev board ordered, but I did receive
> > > something
> > > equally enexpected/unsolicited ~ a MicroChip diary, with a glossy card
> > > saying "May
> > > you realize your Designs as Curiosity takes you to Starry heights" -
> with
> > > compliments from Microchip. It was mailed from Microchip Hong Kong,
> some
> > > sort of
> > > promotion around their Curiosity range it seems. My only recent contact
> > > with MC
> > > was buying an ICD4 back in March.
> > >
> > > On 5/25/2018 8:30 PM, Sean Breheny wrote:
> > > > Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip
> > > sample
> > > > request was made "on your behalf"?
> > > >
> > > > My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt
> but it
> > > > doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also
> it
> > > > passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from
> microchip.com
> > > >
> > > > I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I
> can't
> > > > think who would have done it for me.
> > > >
> > > > One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary
> of my
> > > > order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me.
> Maybe
> > > > it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally?
> But it
> > > > would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give
> me a
> > > > security warning about the message.
> > >
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[Bonita Felix]

You're correct in that the mBed is the same., However, I don't use
that one either.

Jim

Regards,

Jim

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email
> From: Michael Johnston <***@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, May 29, 2018 4:06 pm
> To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <***@mit.edu>
>
>
> Hi, I don't building code on the cloud either but if you have that embed
> cloud based device its the same there. But I do believe you can still use
> this device with mplabx 4.1 or what ever
> Michael Johnston
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Bonita Felix <***@jpes.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > One of the purposes of this board is to promote the cloud based
> > development
> > environment called MPLAB EXPRESS.
> >
> > Personally, I don't care much for cloud based compilers/environments.
> > I guess for some cases, they do offer an advantage, but I generally
> > think
> > they're more of a curse than a blessing.
> >
> > My reasons are in a cloud based situation, you have to have access to
> > the internet in some fashion.
> > If I work locally on a computer, I can be completely independent of the
> > internet from a compiler /
> > programming point of view.
> >
> > Another reason is related, and that would be if you store your source
> > code in the cloud, and you want
> > to access it for some reason, again, you have to have internet access.
> > If it's on a local computer
> > drive, I don't need internet access.
> >
> > A third, maybe unlikely but still possible reason is having the source
> > in the cloud makes it easier for
> > someone not authorized to see the code to gain access without your
> > knowledge.
> >
> > One positive I do like is that one could access their code virtually
> > anywhere you have a computer with
> > internet access.
> >
> > However, in my opinion, the negatives far outweigh the positive. But
> > again, this is my opinion, and I
> > do not even suggest that I speak for everyone.
> >
> > Bottom line is cloud based environment / compiler just isn't for me.
> > YMMV.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email
> > > From: Denny Esterline <***@gmail.com>
> > > Date: Tue, May 29, 2018 3:13 pm
> > > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <***@mit.edu>
> > >
> > >
> > > I had received a small dev board from Microchip a couple weeks ago - well
> > > before the subject email. Now that I'm back in the office today, I can
> > > share it's details - I suspect it's something that was linked here on the
> > > list, but, honestly, I don't really recall.
> > >
> > > It's tiny, has a PIC16F18446 one it and what looks to be an on-board
> > > programmer.
> > >
> > > Pictures here:
> > >
> > >
> > > Front
> > >
> > > http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag233/D_esterline/
> > EBB0D5DB-F080-4560-B4E4-463A23F0458E_zpsooa5qraa.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > > Back
> > >
> > > http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag233/D_esterline/
> > 67E6CDB5-D8AF-4466-8E98-CEC925C2C08E_zpsyneocd3s.jpg
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Brent Brown <***@eds.co.nz> wrote:
> > >
> > > > No email received here, and no fee dev board ordered, but I did receive
> > > > something
> > > > equally enexpected/unsolicited ~ a MicroChip diary, with a glossy card
> > > > saying "May
> > > > you realize your Designs as Curiosity takes you to Starry heights" -
> > with
> > > > compliments from Microchip. It was mailed from Microchip Hong Kong,
> > some
> > > > sort of
> > > > promotion around their Curiosity range it seems. My only recent contact
> > > > with MC
> > > > was buying an ICD4 back in March.
> > > >
> > > > On 5/25/2018 8:30 PM, Sean Breheny wrote:
> > > > > Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a Microchip
> > > > sample
> > > > > request was made "on your behalf"?
> > > > >
> > > > > My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt
> > but it
> > > > > doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents. Also
> > it
> > > > > passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from
> > microchip.com
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I
> > can't
> > > > > think who would have done it for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a summary
> > of my
> > > > > order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for me.
> > Maybe
> > > > > it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally?
> > But it
> > > > > would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not give
> > me a
> > > > > security warning about the message.
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > View/change your membership options at
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[Denny Esterline]

One aspect I found interesting was the "drag and drop programming"
Apparently, whatever programming tool they've included on-board emulates a
USB flash drive. Just save a hex file to it and the target chip gets
programmed.

And just for the record - I'm about the most "anti-cloud" person I know.
One of my favorite quotes is "there is no 'cloud', just someone else's
computer"

-Denny


On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Bonita Felix <***@jpes.com> wrote:

>
> You're correct in that the mBed is the same., However, I don't use
> that one either.
>
> Jim
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email
> > From: Michael Johnston <***@gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue, May 29, 2018 4:06 pm
> > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <***@mit.edu>
> >
> >
> > Hi, I don't building code on the cloud either but if you have that embed
> > cloud based device its the same there. But I do believe you can still use
> > this device with mplabx 4.1 or what ever
> > Michael Johnston
> >
> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Bonita Felix <***@jpes.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > One of the purposes of this board is to promote the cloud based
> > > development
> > > environment called MPLAB EXPRESS.
> > >
> > > Personally, I don't care much for cloud based compilers/environments.
> > > I guess for some cases, they do offer an advantage, but I generally
> > > think
> > > they're more of a curse than a blessing.
> > >
> > > My reasons are in a cloud based situation, you have to have access to
> > > the internet in some fashion.
> > > If I work locally on a computer, I can be completely independent of
> the
> > > internet from a compiler /
> > > programming point of view.
> > >
> > > Another reason is related, and that would be if you store your source
> > > code in the cloud, and you want
> > > to access it for some reason, again, you have to have internet access.
> > > If it's on a local computer
> > > drive, I don't need internet access.
> > >
> > > A third, maybe unlikely but still possible reason is having the source
> > > in the cloud makes it easier for
> > > someone not authorized to see the code to gain access without your
> > > knowledge.
> > >
> > > One positive I do like is that one could access their code virtually
> > > anywhere you have a computer with
> > > internet access.
> > >
> > > However, in my opinion, the negatives far outweigh the positive. But
> > > again, this is my opinion, and I
> > > do not even suggest that I speak for everyone.
> > >
> > > Bottom line is cloud based environment / compiler just isn't for me.
> > > YMMV.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email
> > > > From: Denny Esterline <***@gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Tue, May 29, 2018 3:13 pm
> > > > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <***@mit.edu>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I had received a small dev board from Microchip a couple weeks ago -
> well
> > > > before the subject email. Now that I'm back in the office today, I
> can
> > > > share it's details - I suspect it's something that was linked here
> on the
> > > > list, but, honestly, I don't really recall.
> > > >
> > > > It's tiny, has a PIC16F18446 one it and what looks to be an on-board
> > > > programmer.
> > > >
> > > > Pictures here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Front
> > > >
> > > > http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag233/D_esterline/
> > > EBB0D5DB-F080-4560-B4E4-463A23F0458E_zpsooa5qraa.jpg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Back
> > > >
> > > > http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag233/D_esterline/
> > > 67E6CDB5-D8AF-4466-8E98-CEC925C2C08E_zpsyneocd3s.jpg
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Brent Brown <***@eds.co.nz>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > No email received here, and no fee dev board ordered, but I did
> receive
> > > > > something
> > > > > equally enexpected/unsolicited ~ a MicroChip diary, with a glossy
> card
> > > > > saying "May
> > > > > you realize your Designs as Curiosity takes you to Starry heights"
> -
> > > with
> > > > > compliments from Microchip. It was mailed from Microchip Hong Kong,
> > > some
> > > > > sort of
> > > > > promotion around their Curiosity range it seems. My only recent
> contact
> > > > > with MC
> > > > > was buying an ICD4 back in March.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/25/2018 8:30 PM, Sean Breheny wrote:
> > > > > > Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a
> Microchip
> > > > > sample
> > > > > > request was made "on your behalf"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt
> > > but it
> > > > > > doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents.
> Also
> > > it
> > > > > > passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from
> > > microchip.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I
> > > can't
> > > > > > think who would have done it for me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a
> summary
> > > of my
> > > > > > order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for
> me.
> > > Maybe
> > > > > > it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally?
> > > But it
> > > > > > would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not
> give
> > > me a
> > > > > > security warning about the message.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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[James Cameron]

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 02:39:58PM -0700, Denny Esterline wrote:
> One aspect I found interesting was the "drag and drop programming"

When the desktop metaphor began, and files were shown as icons, and it
was possible to destroy hours of work with a slip of the mouse, that's
when I decided I wasn't interested.

My work systems have no files visible as icons; I've turned those
features off. I've worked like that for 25 years, and yet to have a
good reason to adopt the feature. Files stay where they are put, or I
use a command to move them.

> Apparently, whatever programming tool they've included on-board
> emulates a USB flash drive. Just save a hex file to it and the
> target chip gets programmed.

So the drag and drop programming of mbed and Micro Bit are irritations
because I end up writing a quick script anyway. ;-)

> And just for the record - I'm about the most "anti-cloud" person I know.
> One of my favorite quotes is "there is no 'cloud', just someone else's
> computer"

Yay.

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[Michael Johnston]

Jim Paul a friend of mine down in Houston Texas says the same thing,He
could care less about doing anything on the cloud and I agree its not for
me with hackers on loss like they are now! you dont know who is spying on
your development.I am going to try it out just to see what I can do on it
but my private stuff will not be stored on the cloud
Michael

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 4:20 PM, Bonita Felix <***@jpes.com> wrote:

>
> You're correct in that the mBed is the same., However, I don't use
> that one either.
>
> Jim
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email
> > From: Michael Johnston <***@gmail.com>
> > Date: Tue, May 29, 2018 4:06 pm
> > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <***@mit.edu>
> >
> >
> > Hi, I don't building code on the cloud either but if you have that embed
> > cloud based device its the same there. But I do believe you can still use
> > this device with mplabx 4.1 or what ever
> > Michael Johnston
> >
> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Bonita Felix <***@jpes.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > One of the purposes of this board is to promote the cloud based
> > > development
> > > environment called MPLAB EXPRESS.
> > >
> > > Personally, I don't care much for cloud based compilers/environments.
> > > I guess for some cases, they do offer an advantage, but I generally
> > > think
> > > they're more of a curse than a blessing.
> > >
> > > My reasons are in a cloud based situation, you have to have access to
> > > the internet in some fashion.
> > > If I work locally on a computer, I can be completely independent of
> the
> > > internet from a compiler /
> > > programming point of view.
> > >
> > > Another reason is related, and that would be if you store your source
> > > code in the cloud, and you want
> > > to access it for some reason, again, you have to have internet access.
> > > If it's on a local computer
> > > drive, I don't need internet access.
> > >
> > > A third, maybe unlikely but still possible reason is having the source
> > > in the cloud makes it easier for
> > > someone not authorized to see the code to gain access without your
> > > knowledge.
> > >
> > > One positive I do like is that one could access their code virtually
> > > anywhere you have a computer with
> > > internet access.
> > >
> > > However, in my opinion, the negatives far outweigh the positive. But
> > > again, this is my opinion, and I
> > > do not even suggest that I speak for everyone.
> > >
> > > Bottom line is cloud based environment / compiler just isn't for me.
> > > YMMV.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > > Subject: Re: [OT]: Strange Microchip Email
> > > > From: Denny Esterline <***@gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Tue, May 29, 2018 3:13 pm
> > > > To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <***@mit.edu>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I had received a small dev board from Microchip a couple weeks ago -
> well
> > > > before the subject email. Now that I'm back in the office today, I
> can
> > > > share it's details - I suspect it's something that was linked here
> on the
> > > > list, but, honestly, I don't really recall.
> > > >
> > > > It's tiny, has a PIC16F18446 one it and what looks to be an on-board
> > > > programmer.
> > > >
> > > > Pictures here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Front
> > > >
> > > > http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag233/D_esterline/
> > > EBB0D5DB-F080-4560-B4E4-463A23F0458E_zpsooa5qraa.jpg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Back
> > > >
> > > > http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag233/D_esterline/
> > > 67E6CDB5-D8AF-4466-8E98-CEC925C2C08E_zpsyneocd3s.jpg
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Brent Brown <***@eds.co.nz>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > No email received here, and no fee dev board ordered, but I did
> receive
> > > > > something
> > > > > equally enexpected/unsolicited ~ a MicroChip diary, with a glossy
> card
> > > > > saying "May
> > > > > you realize your Designs as Curiosity takes you to Starry heights"
> -
> > > with
> > > > > compliments from Microchip. It was mailed from Microchip Hong Kong,
> > > some
> > > > > sort of
> > > > > promotion around their Curiosity range it seems. My only recent
> contact
> > > > > with MC
> > > > > was buying an ICD4 back in March.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/25/2018 8:30 PM, Sean Breheny wrote:
> > > > > > Has anyone else recently received an email claiming that a
> Microchip
> > > > > sample
> > > > > > request was made "on your behalf"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My first reaction was to think that it must be a phishing attempt
> > > but it
> > > > > > doesn't request that I follow any links or open any documents.
> Also
> > > it
> > > > > > passes gmail's authentication tests for having come from
> > > microchip.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't recall placing any sample orders with them in years and I
> > > can't
> > > > > > think who would have done it for me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One more strange thing is that it says that the email is a
> summary
> > > of my
> > > > > > order but there is no list of parts or any delivery address for
> me.
> > > Maybe
> > > > > > it was a phishing attempt and there was an attachment originally?
> > > But it
> > > > > > would be strange for gmail to strip out the attachment and not
> give
> > > me a
> > > > > > security warning about the message.
> > > > >
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Denny Esterline <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> And just for the record - I'm about the most "anti-cloud" person I know.
> One of my favorite quotes is "there is no 'cloud', just someone else's
> computer"

Does a mainframe by any other name feel as oppressive? "Cloud mainframe"
works best for me. "Cloud server farms in mainframe racks" contains too
much jargon.
"Cloud mainframe" also re-introduces the crusty old mainframe
moniker to the narrative. It gives young people a focus for their
inevitable frustration.

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