[TECH]:: "Airship"

[RussellMc]

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I added the 'description'.

"The Saucy Sue". Hamilton Gardens.
Beautifully done.
Held down by multiple cables it shifts slightly in the breeze.

*2. *Possibly somewhat higher resolution version *here
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Russell

I wonder if "Huddlestone" is from the African resident family of that name
in times past.


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[Allen Mulvey]

I can't see the Facebook post. The hard vertical line
separating sky from green just above the bow of the boat
seems to assure a poorly photoshopped photo.

Allen

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*1. "Airship"
<https://scontent.fakl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32385556_19
56304827776336_2976171963988312064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=094bab
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I added the 'description'.

"The Saucy Sue". Hamilton Gardens.
Beautifully done.
Held down by multiple cables it shifts slightly in the
breeze.

*2. *Possibly somewhat higher resolution version *here
<https://scontent.fakl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32385556_19
56304827776336_2976171963988312064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=094bab
195439ed6c89b2ed0daeedd2cc&oe=5B4EFEF8>*

*3. Facebook post
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t=a.1944520098954809.1073742433.100001905146167&type=3&theat
er&comment_id=1956867767720042&force_theater=1&notif_t=photo
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Russell

I wonder if "Huddlestone" is from the African resident
family of that name
in times past.


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6304827776336_2976171963988312064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=094bab1
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6304827776336_2976171963988312064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=094bab1
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3.
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[Justin Richards]

Novel for a kids book, perhaps not big enough. Black marks add authenticity
but also looks like somewhere you would not like black marks if from
exhaust.
Would not be maneuverable enough to trim trees. And the need to make sharp
branches if they are thinking of trimming trees.
Only looked at the first link given.

Post by Allen Mulvey
I can't see the Facebook post. The hard vertical line
separating sky from green just above the bow of the boat
seems to assure a poorly photoshopped photo.
Allen
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Subject: [TECH]:: "Airship"
Comment on the object in this image would be "of interest".
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<https://scontent.fakl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32385556_19
56304827776336_2976171963988312064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=094bab
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I added the 'description'.
"The Saucy Sue". Hamilton Gardens.
Beautifully done.
Held down by multiple cables it shifts slightly in the
breeze.
*2. *Possibly somewhat higher resolution version *here
<https://scontent.fakl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32385556_19
56304827776336_2976171963988312064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=094bab
195439ed6c89b2ed0daeedd2cc&oe=5B4EFEF8>*
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Russell
I wonder if "Huddlestone" is from the African resident
family of that name
in times past.
Full URLs if above links broken.
1.
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6304827776336_2976171963988312064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=094bab1
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[RussellMc]

Post by Justin Richards
Novel for a kids book, perhaps not big enough. Black marks add authenticity
but also looks like somewhere you would not like black marks if from
exhaust.

Would not be maneuverable enough to trim trees. And the need to make sharp

Post by Justin Richards
branches if they are thinking of trimming trees.
Only looked at the first link given.

​See my reply to Allen.
Your comments are good but missing a major point - in somewhat the same way
as Watson does in the *Sherlock Holmes & Watson camping trip ​joke
<https://www.sunnyskyz.com/funny-jokes/20/Sherlock-Holmes-and-Dr-Watson-Go-Camping>*
.

Astoundingly, in 2002 a university research project (allegedly) found that
this was considered to possibly be the world's funniest joke :-(.
Assuredly, it's not :-)

*Agh!!! - Scientists close in on world's funniest joke
<https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/dec/20/humanities.research>*


Russell

[RussellMc]

Post by Allen Mulvey
I can't see the Facebook post. The hard vertical line
separating sky from green just above the bow of the boat
seems to assure a poorly photoshopped photo.

​Assurance fails :-).
It's an unaltered photo (taken by me) of a real world 3D scene.
The green line is due to a dark green building ​immediately behind the
'airship'.

There is some reason that I posted this. A certain reaction was sought. So
far it has not been closely approached.

The scene is as the eye sees it - the 'airship' hangs in the air and
'bobbles' slightly in the breeze.

Full res 6000 x 4000 photos *here
<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2dyj1tos1utwca7/AADCe98aodjT0GvBSpk82q3La?dl=0>*

=
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2dyj1tos1utwca7/AADCe98aodjT0GvBSpk82q3La?dl=0

These are essentially "out of camera" with at most adjustments to colour
balance, light levels, sharpening etc.
Photos with file name of form DSC0xxxx`11180513`.jpg are unmodified but
have been compressed at JPG90 level (essentially unchanged visually but
about 40% of original file size).
Photos with filename of form DSC0xxxx`11180513`*_RP Blimp*.jpg ie added
text, have been modified as above for appearance only.


Russell

[Allen Mulvey]

The building is easily visible in some of the other pictures, DSC02867, DSC02874, and DSC02875.

It reminds me of the airship in the movie The Mummy Returns. The boat is a bit smaller.

Allen

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Post by Allen Mulvey
I can't see the Facebook post. The hard vertical line
separating sky from green just above the bow of the boat
seems to assure a poorly photoshopped photo.

​Assurance fails :-).
It's an unaltered photo (taken by me) of a real world 3D scene.
The green line is due to a dark green building ​immediately behind the
'airship'.

There is some reason that I posted this. A certain reaction was sought. So
far it has not been closely approached.

The scene is as the eye sees it - the 'airship' hangs in the air and
'bobbles' slightly in the breeze.

Full res 6000 x 4000 photos *here
<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2dyj1tos1utwca7/AADCe98aodjT0GvBSpk82q3La?dl=0>*

=
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2dyj1tos1utwca7/AADCe98aodjT0GvBSpk82q3La?dl=0

These are essentially "out of camera" with at most adjustments to colour
balance, light levels, sharpening etc.
Photos with file name of form DSC0xxxx`11180513`.jpg are unmodified but
have been compressed at JPG90 level (essentially unchanged visually but
about 40% of original file size).
Photos with filename of form DSC0xxxx`11180513`*_RP Blimp*.jpg ie added
text, have been modified as above for appearance only.


Russell

[RussellMc]

Post by Allen Mulvey
The building is easily visible in some of the other pictures, DSC02867,
DSC02874, and DSC02875.
​Yes. It is not hard up against the 'airship'.

It's relationship, if any, to the 'airship' is not obvious from any
intended viewing angle. ​


It reminds me of the airship in the movie The Mummy Returns. The boat is a

Post by Allen Mulvey
bit smaller.
​I looked for mummy related references but did not find any at a quick

look. I'll try again with the correct name.


Russell

[Denny Esterline]

Dreamer in me said "That's so cool!"
Engineer in me said "That's _grossly_ undersized to provide the necessary
lift."
Pragmatist in me said "How are they not getting sued?"
-Denny

Post by Allen Mulvey
I can't see the Facebook post. The hard vertical line
separating sky from green just above the bow of the boat
seems to assure a poorly photoshopped photo.
Allen
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Subject: [TECH]:: "Airship"
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I added the 'description'.
"The Saucy Sue". Hamilton Gardens.
Beautifully done.
Held down by multiple cables it shifts slightly in the
breeze.
*2. *Possibly somewhat higher resolution version *here
<https://scontent.fakl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32385556_19
56304827776336_2976171963988312064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=094bab
195439ed6c89b2ed0daeedd2cc&oe=5B4EFEF8>*
*3. Facebook post
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er&comment_id=1956867767720042&force_theater=1&notif_t=photo
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Russell
I wonder if "Huddlestone" is from the African resident
family of that name
in times past.
Full URLs if above links broken.
1.
https://scontent.fakl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32385556_195
6304827776336_2976171963988312064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=094bab1
95439ed6c89b2ed0daeedd2cc&oe=5B4EFEF8
2.
https://scontent.fakl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32385556_195
6304827776336_2976171963988312064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=094bab1
95439ed6c89b2ed0daeedd2cc&oe=5B4EFEF8
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=a.1944520098954809.1073742433.100001905146167&type=3&theate
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[David C Brown]

Taking the boat to be about 20 feet long.
Balloon diameter is similar to length of boat and balloon length say twice
that.

If balloon was cylinder volume would be 3.14 * 10^2 * 40 ~=
12,500 cu ft.
Call it 10,000 cu ft to allow for taper.

Using standard figure for hydrogen of 68l b/1,000 cu ft gives a lift of 680
lb.
Grossly undersized indeed.

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Post by Denny Esterline
Dreamer in me said "That's so cool!"
Engineer in me said "That's _grossly_ undersized to provide the necessary
lift."
Pragmatist in me said "How are they not getting sued?"
-Denny

Post by Allen Mulvey
I can't see the Facebook post. The hard vertical line
separating sky from green just above the bow of the boat
seems to assure a poorly photoshopped photo.
Allen
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I added the 'description'.
"The Saucy Sue". Hamilton Gardens.
Beautifully done.
Held down by multiple cables it shifts slightly in the
breeze.
*2. *Possibly somewhat higher resolution version *here
<https://scontent.fakl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32385556_19
56304827776336_2976171963988312064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=094bab
195439ed6c89b2ed0daeedd2cc&oe=5B4EFEF8>*
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Russell
I wonder if "Huddlestone" is from the African resident
family of that name
in times past.
Full URLs if above links broken.
1.
https://scontent.fakl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32385556_195
6304827776336_2976171963988312064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=094bab1
95439ed6c89b2ed0daeedd2cc&oe=5B4EFEF8
2.
https://scontent.fakl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32385556_195
6304827776336_2976171963988312064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=094bab1
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Post by David C Brown
Taking the boat to be about 20 feet long.
Balloon diameter is similar to length of boat and balloon length say twice
that.
If balloon was cylinder volume would be 3.14 * 10^2 * 40 ~=
12,500 cu ft.
Call it 10,000 cu ft to allow for taper.

​I did similarly.
I got a somewhat lower figure, but ...​

Post by David C Brown
Using standard figure for hydrogen

​... they mentioned Helium on the "instruction" sign - so somewhat less
again ...​

of 68l b/1,000 cu ft gives a lift of 680

Post by David C Brown
lb.Grossly undersized indeed.

​Indeed.
BUT it's floating there in front of people's eyes. And it seems that most
​people accept it at face value.
What you can see with your eyes must be real. Right?

I wen for a not-perhaps-strictly-out-of-bounds clamber around the outside
of a tethered bush over a not too too high drop to walk out on a small
jetty provided to see if one could see the magic used.
One could :-).
But 99.9% plus of the visitors never will.

Photos of magic by email offline on request (reasonably borimg).


R

[Denny Esterline]

Given that this is a real physical object, I'm assuming the "magic" is that
the tether "ropes" are actually rigid.

Post by RussellMc

Post by David C Brown
Taking the boat to be about 20 feet long.
Balloon diameter is similar to length of boat and balloon length say

twice

Post by David C Brown
that.
If balloon was cylinder volume would be 3.14 * 10^2 * 40 ~=
12,500 cu ft.
Call it 10,000 cu ft to allow for taper.

​I did similarly.
I got a somewhat lower figure, but ...​

Post by David C Brown
Using standard figure for hydrogen

​... they mentioned Helium on the "instruction" sign - so somewhat less
again ...​
of 68l b/1,000 cu ft gives a lift of 680

Post by David C Brown
lb.Grossly undersized indeed.

​Indeed.
BUT it's floating there in front of people's eyes. And it seems that most
​people accept it at face value.
What you can see with your eyes must be real. Right?
I wen for a not-perhaps-strictly-out-of-bounds clamber around the outside
of a tethered bush over a not too too high drop to walk out on a small
jetty provided to see if one could see the magic used.
One could :-).
But 99.9% plus of the visitors never will.
Photos of magic by email offline on request (reasonably borimg).
R
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Post by Denny Esterline
Dreamer in me said "That's so cool!"

​Indeed !!!
​

Post by Denny Esterline
Engineer in me said "That's _grossly_ undersized to provide the necessary
lift."

​But (but but but ...). it's floating there in the air in front of our
eyes!!!
:-)

Post by Denny Esterline
Pragmatist in me said "How are they not getting sued?"

I don't know what the recent refernces to TSS are about.
Blackadder was mentioned.
Numerous 'dirty' postcards exist (Garglabet shows).
But:

1927 !!!
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/1st-Edition-Eight-Weeks-in-the-Saucy-Sue-F-J-E-Bennett-1927-Illustrated/153006309892?hash=item239fe30204:g:IrcAAOSwGOxW~~DX​It's
​
​&
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Eight-Weeks-Saucy-Sue-Bennett/dp/B0016N1FTU

& :-) Loading Image...​

​Lacepunk?
http://pacifica-adventuresinlacepunk.blogspot.co.nz/

All y'all do it
https://waitematawoodys.com/tag/saucy-sue/

After Black Adder
http://littlecunningplan.com/2012/07/a-boat-by-any-other-name/


​
​R