[TECH]:: Alternative energy and pricing issues

[RussellMc]

Deemed relevant due to the complex mix of factors and perspectives that
lead to market electricity prices under various situations.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-17/curious-adelaide-the-problem-of-power/9158240

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[John Gardner]

Last time I looked, a "market" consists of sellers & "willing" buyers.

I'm not sure that describes the electrical utility situation in the Great

& Powerful Oz ...

Post by RussellMc
Deemed relevant due to the complex mix of factors and perspectives that
lead to market electricity prices under various situations.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-17/curious-adelaide-the-problem-of-power/9158240
__________________
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-04/elon-musk-tesla-to-give-solar-panels-batteries-to-sa-homes/9394352
Tesla 100 MW / 129 MWh battery in SA
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-07/what-is-tesla-big-sa-battery-and-how-will-it-work/8688992
SA power: 185 pumped hydro sites identified across South Australia by ANU
research
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-16/pumped-hydro-sites-identified-in-sa/8623758
SA Power customers to miss blackout compensation as supplier claims 'force
majeure'
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-05/sa-power-customers-to-miss-compensation/8499414
SA plastics recycling business closes due to $100k hike in power bills
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-27/sa-recycling-business-power-bills-rise-causing-closure/8654638
Lyon Group announces $1b battery and solar farm for South Australia's
Riverland
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-30/new-solar-project-announced-for-sa-riverland/8400952

[Harold Hallikainen]

Interesting articles. The auction method is interesting. I have heard of
this before where all winning bidders get the same price, including those
who bid lower. This makes sense since electricity is fungible. A megawatt
hour from one supplier is the same as that from another, and they are
mixed together for delivery. For a while, California let consumers buy
from a generation company of their choice and pay the local utility for
delivery. I don't remember all the details, but the utility pretty much
bought on the spot market while the consumer had a fixed rate per kwh. The
utility ended up paying a LOT more than what they were selling for. As I
recall, this drove the utilities into bankruptcy. I think the system would
have worked if the price variation were passed on to the consumer. At
times of high demand, prices go up, which should reduce consumption. But
with unvarying prices, consumers had no incentive to shed loads.

Solar installation on consumer roofs is interesting. It results in
distributed generation where a lot of the generation is near the load
reducing transmission requirements.

Harold

Post by John Gardner
Last time I looked, a "market" consists of sellers & "willing" buyers.
I'm not sure that describes the electrical utility situation in the Great
& Powerful Oz ...

Post by RussellMc
Deemed relevant due to the complex mix of factors and perspectives that
lead to market electricity prices under various situations.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-17/curious-adelaide-the-problem-of-power/9158240
__________________
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-04/elon-musk-tesla-to-give-solar-panels-batteries-to-sa-homes/9394352
Tesla 100 MW / 129 MWh battery in SA
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-07/what-is-tesla-big-sa-battery-and-how-will-it-work/8688992
SA power: 185 pumped hydro sites identified across South Australia by ANU
research
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-16/pumped-hydro-sites-identified-in-sa/8623758
SA Power customers to miss blackout compensation as supplier claims 'force
majeure'
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-05/sa-power-customers-to-miss-compensation/8499414
SA plastics recycling business closes due to $100k hike in power bills
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-27/sa-recycling-business-power-bills-rise-causing-closure/8654638
Lyon Group announces $1b battery and solar farm for South Australia's
Riverland
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-30/new-solar-project-announced-for-sa-riverland/8400952

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