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[PIC] [EE] Internal RC sensitive to PCB flex?
Van Horn, David
2017-11-02 21:01:39 UTC
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Is there any documentation on sensitivity to PCB flex when using the internal RC?
I have seen this on SAM7 chips and I think it's happening on a 24F chip.

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Sean Breheny
2017-11-02 22:47:13 UTC
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I don't know about documentation but I have seen this before but I cannot
remember whether it was with a 16F88 or dsPIC24. I noticed it only when I
applied pressure directly to the package of the chip, though. I would
suspect that anything which applies pressure to the die will change the
value of resistors and capacitors on the die.



On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Van Horn, David <
Post by Van Horn, David
Is there any documentation on sensitivity to PCB flex when using the internal RC?
I have seen this on SAM7 chips and I think it's happening on a 24F chip.
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Van Horn, David
2017-11-03 15:14:25 UTC
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I verified yesterday that it is happening, and that it's not just temperature. On external crystal a pin toggle based on a timer is dead constant. On internal RC, applying torque to the board wobbles the oscillator like a theremin.


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I don't know about documentation but I have seen this before but I cannot remember whether it was with a 16F88 or dsPIC24. I noticed it only when I applied pressure directly to the package of the chip, though. I would suspect that anything which applies pressure to the die will change the value of resistors and capacitors on the die.
Post by Van Horn, David
Is there any documentation on sensitivity to PCB flex when using the internal RC?
I have seen this on SAM7 chips and I think it's happening on a 24F chip.
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Lead Hardware Engineer
Backcountry Access, Inc.
2820 Wilderness Pl, Unit H
Boulder, CO 80301 USA
phone: 303-417-1345 x110
backcountryaccess.com>
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